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visitors.
Please be kind not to post comments that are obscene, vulgar, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative (You will only insult yourself if you do so).
The aim of this site is to precent a part of the Greek history as I, a humble Greek, see it, and hopefully by doing so to contribute to mutual understanding and reapproaching between the Peoples of the area.
I believe that denial, ignorance, blindness and hate, is not the right way to go.
Thank you.
Serkan
Turkey ( ISTANBUL )
19 November 2009 - 16:03:08
Your site is working for instigating the hostility between the greek and turkish nations. What is your aim with discussing such stories and themes?
There are millions of people who had migrated from balkans in 1912-13 balkan wars from european turkey .
They have lots of stories about greek atrocities in selanik, tırhalla, kozana, yenişehir (larissa), florina, yanya, kaylar, drama, serez, kasturya, karaferye, sarışaban, dimetoka, vodina, gümülcine, iskece, dedeağaç, kavala and so on.... turkish and muslim majority cities and towns in todays greece. And what did u do in cyprus?
But what will we gain after uncovering such gloomy stories? Enmity and hate. Nothing more.... We turks are leaving past to history and look forward.
There is neither byzantium empire nor ottoman empire today. They are history now. There are greece and turkey today. And we have new boundaries.
Lets talk about today. What is the greek policy to turkish minority in western thrace?
Greek government banned people from using their nations name 'turk'. Your state enforce people to use expression 'greek muslims'.
What about the ottoman monuments left in greece? how about minarets, hammams, caravanserais, madrasahs? You must be different from turks for criticizing them? Please stop provokating people.
Turkish nation sending greeks a olive branch as a symbol of peace after all your groundless slanders. And i have read the comments. Greek comments are full of shameful statements. This shows the insight of greek people. Its a shame for you.... regards
Seyit Han Danimentli
Turkey
08 Oktober 2009 - 22:19:01
You the Greekss, you always lie and manipulate the history. You Greeks live under aouthority of supreme race of asia, Turks,you preserve your existence under Turkish control otherwise, venetians would convert you to catholisc. You are the laziest nation of the world but the Turks are hard-working nation.You are the dogs of british. Without them you can not be independent. About Armenians, these barbarian race benefited all aspects of Turkish empire.but, they betrayed Turkey and supported Russia.WE just punished them like you!!!.half milloon Turks had died during armenian attacks. You greeks,in your country, muslim albanians,macedonians and Turks were oppressed.be prepared, one day we will return to abolish your ridicolus culture.You have obey Turks as if you obey before.Beacuse you are always fleeing from the field.You are the just hero of uzo but we are the hero of history. Not Turks even albanians will beat you.
Angela Kalafatas
Australia
24 September 2009 - 17:43:12
I found your website very informative and unbiased. I was born in Kilini, Pelopnissos in 1947.
Both my parents were born near Cesme in Asia Minor. As children,(10 & 12yrs old) Mum & Dad were forced to flee their homes with their parents & siblings in 1922. They were fortunate enough to survive having been warned earlier of impending danger by some of their kinder Turkish neighbours.
As refugees, they spent about 10 yrs on Chios where they were educated. Later the Greek gov. issued land & they settled in Kato Panayia, Kilini Port, Peloponissos. My Dad ventured to Australia in 1948 & subsequently we all migrated in 1951. I have just visited Turkey - Saw Hagia Sophia and the Magnificent Bosphorus etc.
Our hearts bleed for what we had there.Its a feeling only a Greek knows. A feeling of great Love and great Loss mingled together. We dont hate the Turkish people ! But certainly we hate what they did to our Forebears! We are sad that we arent in that beautiful country any
longer! We are sad that we had to leave all our heritage behind.We are sad that there are families separated from their loved ones forever and some families completely terminated- their lineage made extinct !Is that so hard to understand?
On our tour, what we thought of as almost comical was, that all us Greeks go to Turkey and ,as tourists who desire to see our past heritage, we are Paying at every turn, Even, to use the Turkish Toilets!! It made us laugh at ourselves. Our tour guide was Ali- a Turk born & educated in Kos. Obviously Ali is caught between two cultures but he manages to be both Turk & Greek in his own unique way.
The Apostle Paul said 'I am All things to all men that I might win them for Christ.' With this in mind, I would Love to hear some uplifting human stories that have happened between the Greek & Turkish peoples- have any ever emerged?
Thanks again for this site & I will be keeping in touch.
Angie K
Okan
Imvros (Turkey)
11 September 2009 - 12:33:38
Just want to say the truth.. My mother is greek and father is a turk. I know both of the languages and grew like this. I see that the main reason is money, power and politics... Both of them killed each other and some people earn money or power about this.. Please once look about this case.. Greetings to Greeks and Turks that have a knowledge about their cultures and friendship..
Stepan Karayan
Switzerland
09 September 2009 - 02:54:03
Good site! Continue your great work! And stick to the facts. Do not listen to Turkish lullabies. We do need to keep contact with our neighbours whether we are Armenians or Greeks. But we do not have to sell ourselves at any cost as the current Armenian-Turkish 'reconciliation process' shows. Turkey will continue its policy of Genocide denial. As it does so this country is doomed to repeat future Genocides. ----> Have a look at 'British Reports on Ethnic Cleansing in Anatolia, 1919 - 1922: The Armenian-Greek Section' (compiled by Vartkes Yeghiayan, Glendale (CA) 2007, ISBN 978-0-9777153-2-9
Julian Clegg
Taiwan
16 July 2009 - 09:50:06
I did not know about the Istanbul Pogrom until a coupe of days ago. I found out about it after doing research on pogroms in connection with the concerted attacks that happened overnight in Urumqi, Xinjiang, China last Sunday. The circumstances of the attacks are remarkably similar, except that more people where killed in Urumqi. This is not surprising when you consider that the Uighur/Uygur extremist exile groups are closely associated with the fascist Grey Wolves in Turkey, Germany and other places.
George Sara
Greece
26 May 2009 - 08:43:55
I thing its good to publish this very interesting site in Greek, because even a lot of Greeks, have not idea about these things. Again congratulations.
George Sara
Greece
26 May 2009 -08:42:41
A lot of congratulations. Its time for humanity to learn about Turkish criminal against Greek ans Armenian genocites.
Nicholas Pantelopoulos
Canada
10 May 2009 - 04:09:05
Thank you for this testimony of the cruelest pages of history of Romiosini of Asia Minor. May the memory of all those who perished, Greek, Armenian, young and old, never be forgotten. May God grant them eternal rest. May God open the hearts and minds of the Turkish people who persist in their hate, and continue to live in denial of this genocide, and may they one day join all of humanity in lamenting the brutality of their forefathers. God will remember the victims.Turkey will one day vanish. Nothing of it will ever be remain apart from legends of its horrific regime.
Nini
UK
19 Februar 2009 - 19:47:37
I have read your statement above. If this is the case you should remove some of the comments from the Greeks below. Especially the one from Stefanos about so called constantinople being named as such until every Greek is dead. Just get over it man. It is Istanbul. But clearly again, you are happy for people to say that they lost a grandad, an uncle etc. and carry on with the hatred. You know how many members of my family were executed by various people during the Balkan wars but I choose not to talk about it because you have to lay it to rest if you want peace in this world. Also, you talk about the turks as if they lack identity due to their mix. If we they were so mixed with so many cultures, they wouldn't attack anyone. Because they couldn't hate anyone. If they are Greeks who became Turks then it doesn't make sense that they would hate the Greeks. But on the other hand it makes sense for the Greeks to hate Turks for becoming muslims. Everyone here should be asha med for being so ignorant.
Nini
UK
19 Februar 2009 - 18:01:14
I think your site is interesting but it is very one sided and completely in favour of the Greeks. As a hate site against turks it does a very good job. Everyone conveniently forgets what the Armenians killed 2.5million Tatar muslims. That the greeks killed many turkish villagers during the Cypriot war. Even the Greek prime minister had to make an apology to Turkey for treating its turkish population worse than animals. The British empire was responsible for the deaths of over 20million indians. All this information is available from UK and the US governments. The turks of today would never allow anything like this to happen again. You place quotes from the 30's and the 50's when the turks had just come out of wars they had been fighting since WW1. They were weary as a nation and most living in poverty. Of course they became nationalists having spent many years trying to rid their country of invaders. This does not excuse their actions but in talking about history yo u fail to take history into account. The greeks are full of hatred. And if there is anything that history teaches us its that hatred can be very destructive. As all the events you discuss have proved. I'm expecting hate comments as having read through the site I do not expect anything better.
Prince Raffael Lascaris de Gayangos de Tramontana
Italy (Rome) provisionally resident in Dubai
26 April 2008 - 13:11:31
Your Web-Page Byzantinos is very good because few people know of the terrible Arminian genocide I was one of them). As you can read I am of Greek blood. My family left Constantinopoli by end of the 16th C first settling in Venice and later in Dalmatia: blood is thicker than water!! My parents met in Istambul for my grand faher was a Spanish diplomat in Turkey during Atta Turk. Strange enough, my Spanish family had mixed with the Lascari of Sicily who had come from Albania after that country fell in Ottoman hands..so anything Greek comes deep into my heart! I am planning to open business in Cyprus: that is why I found your Web-Page. In spite of all I would show the Turkish how GENEROUS THE GREEKS ARE!! May I remind you that GREECE IS THE MOTHER OF EUROPE! and CONGRATULATIONS!! Best regards
Tami Smith
USA
30 March 2008 - 21:12:16
Thank you for this website. As my grandparents were deceased by the time I was born, I have limited information regarding my ancestors. It is surmised that both, my grandfather and grandmother, fled Greece to escape the atrocities happening during the time of the genocides. This must have been a very difficult time in their lives, for they never spoke to my father (their son) about their life before coming to America.
OKan fer
Turkey
15 March 2008 - 09:41:52
You aproach with prejudice to Turkish people. When people read your passages they will imagine Turkey as a place that is full of violence and killers. Then people have ideas about Turkey without seeing here or without any search.You musnt impose people bad things.
Alexios
Greece
18 Februar 2008 - 19:17:36
Well, This web site is certainly resourceful. I'm one of Greek Inhabitants from old Constantinople, but sadly almost everything in Greek has taken by our city and our ancestors under Turkish influence. There is no way to undo this but there is still a way to recognize our roots of Roman/Byzantine heritage. It gives me a great pride to remember the culture in my living space built by our emperors. This web site is an inspiration to hold what we got, realize what we got. Whole world has been controlled by my city by two empires. The word is 'unity' and if we ever get truly united, our victories are not tied or bound to any limit. This is the portrait of the future of Constantinople. Will Greeks cling to the past or can they see through the situation of today?
metin cem
usaT
24 November 2007 - 06:34:17
Dear Friends, The more I read about 20th century Turkish History, the more I get ashamed. With all due respect, even though I did not commit any of those shameful crimes we children or grandchildren are the ones that pay the price. We turks have more in common with greeks than greeks have with any other western society which makes this hatred meaningless. I do admit that there are narrow minded people in both sides.(Unfortunately that number is higher in east side). Now is time for tolerance, respect and apology. I want to do my part by apologizing to all those people who suffered and still suffer from these inhuman acts. I dream not only greek and turkish but also jewish and armenian spoken culture as it used to be in my beloved Turkey.
Aristotle Mavros
Canada
11 October 2007 - 03:53:42
This passed summer I was visiting the Dodecanese Greek archipelago. I spent 3 hours in the Turkish coastal city called Kas. I found Turkish people extremely nice. One young turk invited me to photograph the interior of his house. 'What is so special about it ? ' I asked. 'It is an original traditional greek house', he replied. He explained to me that this city used to be Greek and its name was Antiphillos (renamed Kas by the Turks). Intrigued, I asked him: 'What happened to the Greeks of Antiphilos?'. He replied: 'During our Turkish war of independance, we threw them out'. I must confess that his comment puzzled me for the following reason: During a war of independance, one would imagine that independance fighters aim at chasing away the invaders. In Anatolia (Asia Minor) Greek presence (also Armenian, Assyrian, Kurdish etc..) far preceeds chronologically the arrival of the various waves of turkish tribes (starting in the 9th century till the fall of Constantinople) . How can you therefore justify one's war o
Burcu
Turkey
9 October 2007 - 10:28:05
Well it is important for all people to remember their ancestors who died during those terrible times, but you should remember that our grandfathers and mothers died too. My family had to escape from Albania during WWI and had to come to Turkey because of the ethnic problems in Balkans. As a region we are troubled, we should focus on the loss rather than finding a scapegoat for all the terrible events of the period. Otherwise it will be meaningless to even mention your loss at all.
Lefteris Z.
USA
5 October 2007 - 22:20:00
I am making a video in order to pass along the Greek history (and curse) to my Son and Grandson. The downside of this project is that I get upset and angry at times. My father nearly died in Mikrasiatiki Katastrofi. I spent many days hunting for info. Your site is truly among the best ones I found. Very nicely done. Thak you very very much for the time you put into it in order for me to extract what i need.
Timotheos Andanopoulos
USA
15 September 2007 - 01:15:23
I was aware of the rape of Smyrna but had never heard of the pogrom in 1955. Someone needs to make a film about this tragedy.
Eleni
USA
2 August 2007 - 04:11:52
The most important website on the internet! We will never forget! I pray for a a renewal of Byzantium!
Anna Evangelista
United States
23 July 2007 - 01:41:45
I was born in Imvros island (Under Turkish juristiction since 1923). My family's property was confiscated and my father, who served in the Turkish army, was forced to flee. The Imvrian people always respected the law but never enjoyed their rights according to The Treaty of Lausanne, article 14. My father's fields were given to The Board of Education to build villas. The Turkish Prime Minister who visited the Island suggested that we go back and buy our fields providing we are still Turkish citizen. He didn't say until when before they confiscate them again. We don't hate anyone, we just hate injustice and barbarim.
Christos Bastas
Canada
21 July 2007 - 17:13:29
I hope other greeks will do the same, and tell watt happend that nite, in izmir turkey, 1955 i was one of them. keep the good work, if you need info please let me know, i may provide information. the destruction of the greek pavilion,the consulate, the churche,and our home. thank you for the good work.
Christos Bastas
Prof Dr Anastasios Zavales ThD PhD
USA
18 July 2007 - 20:21:16
Thank you for keeping the facts and truths alive about the Tourkokratia. Your website is an important resource for Greeks and Turks to visit and study. Many people simply don't know about our painful history, especially in modern times. Your extensive research and photo collection bring the reality to the reader. Now that the Turkish government has restarted its oppression of the Greeks in Turkey, especially of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, one prays the international community finds your site and sees first hand what was the glory of our Hellenic communities in Constantinople, and the pogrom of today.
Christie Prappas Collins
United States
9 Maj 2007 - 22:07:05
My Great Grandparents were thrown into a church and burned alive in Pergamos....thank God my Yia Yia made it out and lived to tell of the horrors. Turkey is still occupied by animals.......I encourage everyone to boycott Turkey; spend your tourist dollars elsewhere. Thank you for posting this information on the internet.
Stathios
U.S.A.
11 April 2007 - 06:44:54
What books can I get my hands on that will tell me the story of how Greeks lived from 1453 up till the 1900's?
(Try the works of Vasili Arvaniti and Niko Kazantzaki)
Victoria Psomaidis
United States of America
10 April 2007 - 22:25:14
My family lived in Constantinople before it was taken by the Turks. When they were expelled for being Orthodox, they fled to mainland Greece, where they were poor 'pondios' until my father's generation. My father and his parents and sister immigrated to the USA, and as a first-generation Greek American, the history of the Greeks (especially the Orthodox) has always been close to my heart. When asked to do a project on a spinoff of the Holocaust, I decided on the Turkish purge of Constantinople. When I found your site, I realized just how deep our history of suffering has gone. You have put everything in perspective for me. Efgaristo.
Kostas
Germany
04 April 2007 - 23:37:49
A great site almost everything in there! There will be big payback! It aint over...Ellada gia panta!!
Sotiria
Australia
25 Feb 2007 - 10:02:12
My father, a boy of seven, witnessed the slaughter of his people as his family was expelled from their homeland in the 1920's. The photos on this website have provided a visual reminder of that time long ago and yet forever in our midst and in our souls. From Asia Minor, to Greece, and then on to Australia. I am reminded of my Grandmothers words. When I was a child she would chastise me about my 'Australianness'. "We are a people dispossessed". Throughout her entire life my Grandmother believed that she, and each member of her family, could be dispossessed of their 'new' land at any time. Again and always the memories surface. We can never forget.
Michael H.
California
04 Feb 2007 - 00:17:49
Thank you for keeping the truth alive!
My Grandfather was murdered that night in Uskudar, Turkey
Emin
Turkey
18 Jan 2007 - 16:58:52
I can't admit that the Turkish presence in Anatolia has been that good for Greeks. But in history such things have always happened. Even today England still occupies Northern Ireland, the whole american continent is envaided by latins and people of europeen origin whereas you merely see any native people there.
If you say things that happened in 1921 in Smirni were actually a genocide than I would like to ask you why after the war ended the Greek generals were found guilty and condamned to death penalty by the Greek courts? If all that was a genocide attempting to erase the greek population of minor asia so why your courts reached this verdict?
On my personal account, I so much wish if we still shared our cities with greeks. I have many greek friends even cipriot ones for whom I care so much.
Your web site contains issues that are very sensitive ones which certainly require milder approaches rather than agressive ones and they are in the study area of history.
Best regards.
Jaroslav
Czech Republic
08 Jan 2007 - 16:01:09
We know still very little about Turkey. Unfortunately the EU industries invited
the least educated people to work here. That makes their picture even more grim.
Would be nice to make a survey of Turkish activities - achievements based on good culture, science and education in Europe, US, and in Turkey herself.
The Turkish language is truly beautiful. Very few are ready to have a look at it, while everybody knows Turkey as being an EU candidate for decades. We cannot make a progress in the good intentions of this website, if we are not able to appreciate this or that as well. Would be nice to bring links in our languages and Turkish to get further. As free Westerners we should not waste our time on the hopeless topic of islam, we should focus on secular Turks with clear mind and sense of humour. I think only independent common people like us can do this job.
No government or well financed think-tank...
We should know lot of facts about Turkey, which by itself is a gesture of our appreciation, This will make our critical points very friendly and powerful at the same time. They can see our mutual respect in Europe in spite of many historical controversies in the past and start loving the common cultural heritage of Greeks, Jews, Turks, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Persians...espec. young people might learn very fast. We should involve Europeans with knowledge of
Turkish.
NickySS.
USA
25 Dec 2006 - 05:41:39
Hi!
Nice info, big thx.
Marius G.
Denmark
23 Dec 2006 - 18:32:55
Very informative site. In northern Europe there are not many how know about the Byzantine Empire or the Ottoman for that manner. (No lessons in school).
I have never heard of the Istanbul Pogrom either. No wonder that you Greeks have reservations over the Turks.
Julie
USA
7 Dec 2006 - 23:18:14
Awesome content. Thanks for giving such a useful information :). I hope that there will be new updates...
Stefanos
Germany
30 Nov 2006 - 18:08:42
The way I love Constantinople is indescribably ! When I read all the storys about this town I feel like my heart is there... not here in Germany or in Athen in Greece.
Itīs at the Bosporus and it isnīt Istanbul ... itīs Konstantinopoulis ! And in every Greek heart it will be Constantinople and not Istanbul till all Greeks are dead !
Ego Sagapo Konstantinopoulis .. Poso Sagapo !
Fotis
Greece
9 Nov 2006 - 21:15:57
It is nice to read historical facts that Europe and US try to underestimate.
This site has no intention to raise hate against the turkish people but intends to raise consciousness about the fate of the people who lived and died
in Minor Asia just because they wanted to preserve their faith and their language.
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